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Fri Feb 29, 2008, 9:54 PM
I read something about that new movie with what's his name... The guy who played young Darth Vader, the name escapes me at the moment probably because it's late. Anyways, it had to do with teleportation and they had some blurbs on that. As it turns out, scientists have been doing experiments with Star Trek style transporters and they translated the molecular structure of something across the room, but then it broke down. I wish I had saved the article. I used to have a book on the physics of Star Trek, and I never thought that anything resembling the transporter would ever be possible, but it may very well be someday (not to self: integrate matter-energy conversion device into stories and comics). That's the last thing that I ever would have thought possible. It's also been said that it is impossible to break the light barrier, which I have always doubted. First of all has anyone tried? Then how would you know? What makes the light barrier a barrier? Light can travel at all sorts of speeds, and it is also affected by gravitation. As it turns out, scientists have even learned how to make light stand still. So the light barrier isn't really a barrier now is it?

In other news, my old fat dog got into a fight with a neighbor dog. My dog is an old labrador weimeraner mix, and he used to have lots of energy but now he's tired and sore a lot, and has a hard time getting up, perhaps something we can all look forward too later in life. Anyways, a white labrador came up onto our back porch and stood right behind the door. It took a while for my tired old dog to notice him (hearing is going away), but when he did he was suddenly adrenalized and all the hair on his back was standing way up. He got up so quick and was snarling and barking. He wanted to go out pretty bad so I figured I would let him out and I figured that he would be OK because I figured that he knew he was too out of shape to get into a fight. Apparently I figured incorrectly, and he charged that dog and body slammed him off the porch and I think bit him as well. The other dog was overwhelmed and was nearly knocked over. Once he had driven him off the porch and down the stone path a ways he relented, and the other dog seemed to have a hurt hip and staggered a bit, but then ran off. I was thinking, "man, what a sociopath." I can't understand the emotions or thought process into treating a complete stranger, who has not expressed any hostility, in such a violent and reactionary way. Sure if someone broke into my house I might thrash them a bit, but just for wandering bye? I don't understand.





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wow teleportation!!! thats crayz but also awesome:)
To the first part, I'd think the "Stargate" thing would be more possible first. You see, in transporting stuff, you already do the 'quantum teleportation' bit. The energy and complexity of transmuting matter to energy and then back again so efficiently the subject hardly notices it on top of it is an added layer of complexity.

As far as light speed goes, the issue isn't so much speed but time and the fabric of space. The faster you go, the slower time goes for you. If there was a super efficient rocket engine capable of thrusting at say 1G for thousands of years and we put it on a gernsback style space ship...

Well, it would be a now cliche sci-fi genre. The astronauts aboard the "First interstellar exploratory ship" would think the light barrier was bunk, as it seemed they could just hit the thruster and go far far away very quickly. But, after say exploring a few nearby stars over a few weeks, they'd head back home, and notice Sol had deviated a bit but not really worry.

Then they'd get home and... Well, the movie "Planet of the Apes" was the funniest take on it, Poul Anderson's "The Long Way Home" my favorite sci-fi novel of the subject.

Now, in RL there is enough evidence to support this; For instance, satellites tend to lose time. Their clocks run slower. You'd never notice, but when you use a satellite, you use precision things including "Atomic clock" level accuracy. The time loss is easily accounted for using math from Relativity.

In Star Trek, the ships move by creating a space/time 'bubble' which can be slid along faster than light, also deflecting things that might hit it, hence the 'deflector cone'. This is possible according to modern physics, except that it's argued there isn't enough energy in the universe to do it.

As far as your dog goes, the best thing to do is pet and cuddle him and go "Good boy!" You aren't encouraging brutality, you are rewarding him for defending your home (and his territory). He's an old dog, so he's in real fear of a younger dog challenging him, even though I'm sure he knows you'll side with him.

Of course you need to control and discipline your dog. But when a dog gets like that, there's a reason.

I still remember this story; (70s)

There was a family that had a huge St. Bernard. The dog was a real cute sweet dog. They had several kids, buying him from the pound after seeing "Peter Pan", as a 'nursemaid' dog. Besides their kids, their kids had lots of friends who came over and slept over and played with the dog who seemed to have infinite patience.

One day they called a plumber in to fix a dirty faucet. The dog walked up to him and in a blink of an eye went for his throat. It was so vicious it took 5 men to hold it down, as it was as massive as a man already.

They locked the pooch in a closet. The plumber, who seemed a nice respectable man, was very forgiving; "Shucks, y'don't need to offer me more money, I just ain't good with animals... Well, OK, I will let you pay me fer the shirt he tore, but that's it, ok?"

And so the pooch lingered in the closet for days. The parents were going to have it taken to the pound and put to sleep. However, the kids were screaming their heads off over this, along with all their friends. The dog stopped being vicious instantly when the plumber left.

Now, with Steven King's "Cujo" in the bestseller lists, this might have spelled the pooch's end. But, the plumber was arrested a few days later. He was a child molester who also killed his victims, just his hobby. So, the dog was let out and lived a happy and non-violent life.

The occult circles, later called "New Agers" seized on that story, arguing it proof of "Animal PSI". However, many real scientists pointed out how Dogs, among other animals have better senses of smell and pheromones and that dogs and humans share many of the latter. A dog like a St Bernard uses its nose as much as its eyes, it would have been plain as day the man was a corkscrew with legs, along with fear signals from his child victims.
Star Trek style transporters? Awesome... Maybe I'll be around when they create a successful one... :D Ha ha, the note to self, I do that all the time. XD

Maybe your dog sensed something about the stranger dog... But that is interesting that he would just attack like that... O_O

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Something like that. I really should have saved the article and done some independant investigation.

Yea it could be that he sensed something. The only thing is usually his first reaction to other dogs is violence regardless, unless its a small dog. He doesnt know what to do in those cases.

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You know, it may not have been that they converted the molecular structure into energy, they may have just translated it from one place to another. I should have saved the article and done more investigation. I was too tired to think of that at the time and now I really regret it. What is the principle behind the mechanics of Stargate? Is it like the Borg where they just create a corridor through one part of the universe to another? I think that what I don't understand is why time should go slower the faster you go. Are there any empirical studies that have shown this to be true? Maybe someday the Star Trek warp drive will be feasible. Although I think that the quickest way of travel would be to go outside of the universe and come back in someplace else. That's what they do in Isaac Asimov's books. If that were possible it would represent a merging of science and the supernatural.

Interesting dog story. Yes it's true that they can sense stuff that we can't, so there may have been something sinister about that wandering dog that I didn't catch onto. I didn't chew out my dog for laying the smack. Although one thing about my dog, is that he almost always attacks dogs he doesn't know at the first meeting. Maybe there is some kind of unspoken dialogue going on between the dogs that we can't detect.

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sure is.

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Yes, Stargate is just that. Send out probes to create gates, then use the gates for instant access. This is a rather fast route, and fantastically efficient. Once a gate is established, it becomes very cheap to then move stuff through it, as opposed to a single ship that carries a limited payload for the same or more cost of the probe that establishes the gate. Assuming a near-immortal, stable civilization with this technology, they will create a super civilization at about 1/3 light speed that covers most of a galaxy.

It's been pointed out that our science is like "Leonardo Da Vinci" regarding wormholes. We know how they work, just do not have the technology base to make them.

The existing "Proof" of relativity is in our communications satellite technology. At the accuracy level of an "Atomic Clock" satellites for GPS and other communications lose enough time on a constant basis related to speed that if relativity hadn't been invented, the observations would have been the seed of it. The go fast around the earth, they lose time. A micro-micro fraction of time, but enough to throw off a GPS system, disrupt communications, etc. until it is taken into account.

Also, there are enough of these machines, designed by different and often competing and hostile companies and societies for any 'collusion' yet they show the same, measurable results only accounted for by Einsteins stuff...

So, yes, if say there was a fuel miracle (akin to a "Philosipher's stone") like easy matter/antimatter transmutation, and so it became possible to make a "Goes 1G for 100 years of thrust" space ship and someone just shot off "Second Star on the right and straight on till morning" (hopefully with a big block of ice on the front, but that's another thing) they'd likely soon think they were going faster than light, but in reality they'd be going ahead in time on a one-way trip and their wanderlust would either make them young rip-van-winkles or put them in the "Planet of the Apes".

Oh, btw, I just described a "GUT drive" aka a "Grand Unified Theory" drive that converts matter into energy. First mentioned in Olaf Stapledon's "Star Maker" btw...

For a final note, yes I do believe in "Hyperspace" though it could well be romantic longing. Of course, going outside the universe and re-emerging in another part is the best solution. Without that extra space of higher dimensions, a wormhole would not be possible, but since they are therefore there must be. Enough proven ';particle teleportations' to support this.

But, a merging of science and the supernatural is almost expected in such a case. I remember reading a study of 'dimensions' in space/time, focusing on "Flatland" and of course going to the next higher dimension after ours. On the latter, while we'd still have matter, it would be so non-dense that gravity would have little or no effect and you could do things like pass through walls. A 4D universe would have no stars, and be full of mist, probably gaining energy from other universes and electrical reactions... Pretty much like a 'spirit world' and any inhabitant of it would be a candidate for a Ghost, ET, Djinn...
OK I think I understand now. Another problem with travelling very fast through real space would be that any collisions would tear the ship apart. Even with something as small as a grain of sand. Of course I think that's why they have "deflector dishes" in the Star Trek series'. I was always fascinated by the deflector dishes when I was young.

I definitely believe there is an outside of the universe because the universe is a finite creation and the creator would have to exist outside of it. My theory is that angels and demons can slip in and out of the universe and that is how they get quickly from one place to another. It definitely would bring us closer to the supernatual if we could do that ourselved. All this talk kind of reminds me of the old medieval concept of the universe, where they beleived that the universe existed in spheres or zones and outside of the universe was called Empyrion (spelling?), which was supposedly where God lived. Dante exemplifies that old notion of cosmology pretty well in his writings. As it turns out the medieval philosophers and scientists were wrong about their cosmology for the most part, but they may have been right about Empyrion. Of course the question is, even if we could get outside of the universe could we get back? Whatever the ship uses for propulsion and power would be designed for the physical laws of of this universe, and for that matter so is the human body. Also would there be time there? I actualyl started writing a short story a while ago for the purpose of pondering some of these ideas.

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